• Kutesa says people should think back on what service he could have offered to deserve the 17m Euros. He says on the subject matter of Tullow and Sam Kutesa and Onek isnt new. That it has been here for more than a year. Karuhanga isnt the first whistle blower on the matter. He says the first whistle blower on the matter was Andrew Mwenda.
• Kutesa says Mwenda said documents he received were saying Kutesa received a bribe of 16.5m Euros. Mwenda reported the matter to police and that Onek has received from Tullow 6.5mEuros. an investigation was undertaken by Commission of police by Ndungutse at police and he tried to find out the veracity of these documents and the allegations.
2:40pm:- Kutesa says the letter from UK showed that in case such an allegation as true, the police would have investigated them for money laundering. ESG bank is a Greek bank which doesn’t have any client profile of anybody in East Africa.
• Kutesa concludes after reading all the correspondences…
• Karuhanga takes to the floor saying Kutesa is talking about documents and accounts which I dint particularly refer to him. But when we were entering Parliament this morning, an MP brought more evidence of accounts which am sure could be important in case we eventually agree to have the commission of inquiry.
2:36pm:- Alice Alaaso: what I want to remind this House is that this House chaired by now VP as speaker, we exonerated Chogm suspects and later government went back and backstabbed this House and started arresting. If we are to believe the VP, let us get an assurance that they are not making parliament exonerate these suspects and later turn back and make us look untruthful.
• Nandala: How can be believe the VP that there is a report
• Ssekandi: What we debate here and what we say here is always on official Hansard. Am surprised that some times people don’t read the hansard. I want to refer to the issue of Chogm report. What was done is that Parliament didn’t exonerate but we said let the agencies which handle corruption to investigate. Parliament wasn’t a court of law and so its not true that we exonerated the people named in the Chogm report.
• Ssekandi says he has given information from the President. I was reporting what he told me and so the question of bringing here the police report doesn’t arise. As for police inquiry in Malta is that the things were fake. And I said investigations are continuing in Dubai and there is no way we can do without police. Anyways, I was repoting what President told me. Don’t be personal in this debate. You cant intimidate Ssekandi.
2:33pm:- Speaker rules: this information doesn’t take away the need for further investigations.
• Elijah Okupa: It becomes very difficult your Excellency that such truth can come out when the suspects are the ones who clear all travels abroad. The members are here asking why they shouldn’t step aside until the investigations step aside until the investigations are clear. Yesterday when we left here, the officers concerned said when they went to Malta Dubai, they were told they cant certify the documents because of the mafia involved in the oil in Uganda and that when they went to Kenya, they found the company names had been changed- evidence has already been tampered with. Let the minister step aside, otherwise this Parliament shall do what we can do best.
• Okupa says when Museveni got the information during the campaigns, Museveni wanted some arrests of the ministers but because of the tension, he left it at that.
• Okumu Reagan: Individuals were named and offices were named like the one of the Attorney General. I seek from the VP to know because at one time Mbabazi was the AG and we should know if those documents were signed when he was the AG. Somebody else took over from Mbabazi. Can we know what role he played as then AG.
• Ekanya: clarification from VP upon the team sent by government, can you lay on the table the report given by those officers?
• Nandala Mafabi: Hon Onek said the agreement he signed before he left Energy that arbitration shouldn’t be in London but someone took it back and sanctioned it- what does this mean? This means you are trying to muzzle us
2:26pm:- Ndungutse couldn’t do this alone and he worked with DPP on the matter and asked access for them to be able to investigate these allegations and these allegations Ndungutse wrote to a Mr Simpson (from British Metropolitan police) when Mr Simpson got the letter, he wrote back to Ndungutse on the Bank alleged to Kutesa’s.
• Vice president Ssekandi stands to speak: “Madam Speaker and Hon Members, am here to give some information on the matter that is being debated in this House. I must thank Members on the way you have made your contribution you seem to be patriotic and please continue. The information I want to give is that last year the president got some of the documents that were tabled here yesterday by Karuhanga and after some inquires Museveni involved the IGP in the inquiries who in turn thought the help of DPP because the allegations couldn’t be investigated without using foreign government. The Uganda police got information from the Malta police that the documents were fake. A contact between the Uganda police and Malta continues.
3:00pm:- Speaker asks Kutesa to lay the documents he referred to formally on the table. He lays the – letter from Metropolitan police, the letter of AG of Paris.
• Epetait (motion) moving under rule 68 “close of debate.” That Parliament was called in a special session to discuss the oil sector, and appreciating that there was unanimous concurrence in the debate and that a number of MPs have exhaustively debated, I therefore move that the question be put on the motion.
• Speaker: if we agree that the closure to the debate be now, it means we shall go to the motion. She puts the question…
Ayes have it… she directs that clerk makes lists of motion and reconvene after one and a half hours. 4:30pm to debate the motion.
Ayes have it… she directs that clerk makes lists of motion and reconvene after one and a half hours. 4:30pm to debate the motion.
2:54pm:- Karuhanga says another transaction of 500,000 Euros for the same company and the same account.
• Karuhanga says EADLtd on June 21, 2010 the company received 1.5mEuros.
• Karuhanga also says on June 4, 2010 same company received 500,000 Euros.
• Karuhanga says June 10, the company received more money.
• Karuhanga says The whistle blowers have also given us more information of the transaction on the same account and the print out is here. I beg to lay it on table.
• Karuhanga says its very painful that similar names keep coming when there is a corruption querry. I think this is the time we must stand up and get rid of the Members stealing our money.
• Kutesa concludes that its alright to make statements calling people looters, thieves and also important to know that the people of Uganda aren’t fools and will be able to tell between a lie, a falsehood and the truth. How can anybody in their common sense belive that in a matter of 4 months you can get 17million Euros? am calling upon this August House to exercise constraint. And I say there is no need for further investigations because the allegations made by Karuhanga have already been investigated.
• Speaker rules “I know this matter is emotional but let us treat each other with minimum level of courtesy.”
2:48pm:- Karuhanga says first one is a letter of the CEO of Tullow Eiden writing to CEO Bank of Baleta June 3, 2010 “Letter of power of attorney to Brian Glover that he is allowed to make payment in cash to the representative of the East African Development Sam Kahamba Kutesa” (he lays the documents)
• Karuhanga also says there July 16, 2010 to an account to the beneficiary account of East African Development Limited.
• Karuhanga says another transaction of 5meuros was made on the same account two days later.
• Karuhanga says another transaction July 8, 2010 of 3.5mEuros in the names of the same company
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